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would you pull the plug?

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Assume you have an immediate family member who is lying on a bed and is in a vegetable state would you pull the plug on them or keep them living? Assume also that they have no hope of coming back to the way they used to be. They cant move limps or even breath without the aid of an oxygen masks. What if it were you lying there... Would you want to be let go of or be kept alive? Take of all the burden and the money needed to keep them alive too.
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yes, id pull the plug
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no clear cut answers to these sorts of questions...emotionally driven and highly subjective to "personal experience". only those in such predicament will know what to do...
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I would plug the plug in a heart beat

I have a relative, her son went in for surgery and unfortunately received permanent brain damage in the process. no chance of ever recovering, immobile, blind and deaf but still conscious, the doctors and everyone recommended the plug being pulled but she refused, now she takes care of him at home but still I think its cruelty, no one should be kept in that stage. Sometimes death is better.
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I would never pull the plug. Allah swt has the power, we don't. At the end of the day I will leave everything upon him.
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Re: would you pull the plug?

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Advo wrote:I would plug the plug in a heart beat

I have a relative, her son went in for surgery and unfortunately received permanent brain damage in the process. no chance of ever recovering, immobile, blind and deaf but still conscious, the doctors and everyone recommended the plug being pulled but she refused, now she takes care of him at home but still I think its cruelty, no one should be kept in that stage. Sometimes death is better.

If that was ur son, i doubt you would plug the plug either.

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Re: would you pull the plug?

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Is it not cruel, to not have someone really alive, but not really dead either? Its not like this person is in coma that they can wake up from or anything, they're dead and only being kept alive by man made technology. They're in a vegetable state, they're brain does not function. Why would you keep someone in a state like that.
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Re: would you pull the plug?

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Is that not the same as killing then? would it not be dambi :?
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greenday wrote:Is that not the same as killing then? would it not be dambi :?
they're not really alive, yet they're not dead
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greenday wrote:Is that not the same as killing then? would it not be dambi :?

Before technology the person would have naturally died, why prolong person suffering? When they cant talk, walk, hear, see, feed themselves, cant control their urine or bowel movement. I think its cruel to keep a person in that state.

Salol I would have pulled the plug even faster, I will not prolong misery in hopes of a miracle.
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Re: would you pull the plug?

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I'd keep them alive for a few decades with the hope that medical advances will save them. If that doesn't work, yea probably....especially if medicaid aint paying for it
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Re: would you pull the plug?

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metamorphosis wrote:Assume you have an immediate family member who is lying on a bed and is in a vegetable state would you pull the plug on them or keep them living? Assume also that they have no hope of coming back to the way they used to be. They cant move limps or even breath without the aid of an oxygen masks. What if it were you lying there... Would you want to be let go of or be kept alive? Take of all the burden and the money needed to keep them alive too.

There are few DIFFERENT issues here.

1- what keeps the person alive? the aid of an oxygen masks cannot keep a person alive.

2- changes to the way of the person used to be etc is not a good reason to end someone's life. I think, that is haram.

3- Burden and money? are you kidding? that is not a reason to kill someone.
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Re: would you pull the plug?

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union wrote:I'd keep them alive for a few decades with the hope that medical advances will save them. If that doesn't work, yea probably....especially if medicaid aint paying for it
a few decades? U pretty much have a corpse laying around. The person can't do anything.
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Re: would you pull the plug?

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i dont know what i would do. markey dibatada ko haysanin, it's easy to ride high horse and say: i would do this and this haram etc. but when you are in that shoes, God knows what is your state of mind and your iman and patient limits.

i know family here, this happened 42 years ago, the wife had argument with her mother in law. she took her infant 4 month old and put on the sofa beside her husband that time he was sitting on the sofa reading quran and left house to her parents.

the kid fall down on his head. since that time he is pralized. the doctors told her the risk to open his brain , done and got worse. now that kid is 43 years old. haarka iyo kaadida laga qaada. he cannot eat, so all his food is liquid. illen wa qof jeefa, he became over years over weight. father is his 70s, unable to carry his son and wash him. and what i cannot understand both smile never leaves their mouth. i just dont know how all these years they could carry on! Allaho akharo janada gali.
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Re: would you pull the plug?

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Shirib wrote:
union wrote:I'd keep them alive for a few decades with the hope that medical advances will save them. If that doesn't work, yea probably....especially if medicaid aint paying for it
a few decades? U pretty much have a corpse laying around. The person can't do anything.
It's very easy to keep a person living indefinitely nowadays since machines can support/replace just about every organ of the body. As for them not doing anything, I'd prefer to be stationary for decades rather than dead for eternity.
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