Turtle is back to his Goof!

[sahal80]

Aduunyo! This guy has gotten fatter after he became president and the reason was all the cabitaan and delicacy he was finding infront of him all the time now he looks like the day he was elected.

No way Garguurte to get even the 30 hiraab votes let alone the rest of Somalis but he can organize a local Xamar/Goofka opposition and he is heading to Kismaayo on monday to join the federal states meeting in there.

Firstly Somalis never reelect president, secondly he needs foreign funds and he wont waste his last savings on another election.

As i said before both madoobe and Gaas were using the dblock card against Garguurte so they had reached some compromise bc of their "baad" but as Farmaajo is their cousin this card is no longer working for the IC maybe that why they invited Garguurte to the conference to restore back goofka. They are even asking Xaaf and Waare to back him in this mission.

Farmaajo has lost his last credibility after the gedo rebellion against ahmed madoobe wich could lead a similar scenario of xamar rebellion against Farmaajo

If you open fitno door in your own region it can be used against you. If your against madoobe wait for him until his term ends

Meantime there has been huge army recruitment across gedo in order to capture Buaale so it can host the local parliament election in may or the presidential election in august next year if the first one is not possible they still have infrastructure problems like the lack of airport.

[giftshoprad]

Alla maxaa gun tahay

Your still slandering the real president of Somalia

Sahal, I want you to remember this, I firmly believe that you will never amount to anything politically In Somalia. You are completely politically illiterate. Gun gun dhaley

[sahal80]

I really hate one anonymous coward like this guy address me the second time while i dont know who the fuck he is. I ignored him first time but now i have scrolled through his posts to see where he comes from and all he he does is to Calaal about garguurte. f-king badaw!

Before you talk to me reveal your old username coward. Do you think i have a time to be preoccupied by the likes of you?

If im insignificant why you go butthurt over my posts. I dont even remember the last time i talked about your amazing politicians who have passed away kkk yet you cant erase my old posts from your mind forever kkkk

Listen troll, hassan garguurte is a public personality and can talk shit about him but i havent slander him here except talking about the reality. He is a history and not "real president" kkk

Your lucky if i make a thread for him and waste my time on him kkkk.

it took me three days to make this thread about him bc i havent got time for him

if you think calling him turtle aka garguurte is insult while thats his family nickname in hiiraan.

"Mohamed Hassan Sheikh oo bartay Caafimaadka wuxuu ka shaqeen jiray rug ku taal Muqdisho oo lagu magacaabo Garguurte Specialist Clinic,sida ku qoran barta uu Facebook ku leeyahay hasse yeeshee dhamaan isaga iyo Caruurta Madaxweynaha S
http://hornofafrica-abdikarim.blogspot. ... i.html?m=1

[AbdiWahab252]

He knows he will not win anything. He is simply trying to build his role as Kingmaker. He will use his influence to rebuild DJ and to help shape the next elections.

It’s a brilliant idea but one with more benefits than risks

[giftshoprad]

I really hate one anonymous coward like this guy address me the second time while i dont know who the fuck he is. I ignored him first time but now i have scrolled through his posts to see where he comes from and all he he does is to Calaal about garguurte. f-king badaw!

Before you talk to me reveal your old username coward. Do you think i have a time to be preoccupied by the likes of you?

If im insignificant why you go butthurt over my posts. I dont even remember the last time i talked about your amazing politicians who have passed away kkk yet you cant erase my old posts from your mind forever kkkk

Listen troll, hassan garguurte is a public personality and can talk shit about him but i havent slander him here except talking about the reality. He is a history and not "real president" kkk

Your lucky if i make a thread for him and waste my time on him kkkk.

it took me three days to make this thread about him bc i havent got time for him

if you think calling him turtle aka garguurte is insult while thats his family nickname in hiiraan.

"Mohamed Hassan Sheikh oo bartay Caafimaadka wuxuu ka shaqeen jiray rug ku taal Muqdisho oo lagu magacaabo Garguurte Specialist Clinic,sida ku qoran barta uu Facebook ku leeyahay hasse yeeshee dhamaan isaga iyo Caruurta Madaxweynaha S
http://hornofafrica-abdikarim.blogspot. ... i.html?m=1

Your calling me badow hahaha, will let the readers decide for themselves who is badow

You can say whatever you want about hassan sheikh, insult and slander him if you wish, but am disappointed that you choose to portray him the way you do despite all the good work he did, I still haven't seen you talk like that about Farmaajo the same way which is really puzzling for me

You'll answer to Allah regarding your slander and accusations and maybe you'll explain to him and give him all the evidence you supposedly gathered against Hassan sheikh to defend yourself. You are unknown and irrelevant in the larger scheme of things, you can insult him or whatever, he doesn't even know you exist.

What is shocking to me is your incapability to distinguish between what or who is good and what is bad and this extends to the judgements you make about different politicians and why their so inaccurate, its because the way you see things is messed up. The illogical way in which you defend xawadle politicians is just so amazing and shocking to observe, bewildering in fact. It shows how far qabill can blind a person, you are completely incapable of objective, rational and logical assessment of things let alone the complicated political landscape of Somalia. Its hilarious that your trying to pose as some kind of serious political analyst.

Although am Hawiye myself, I would pic a Darood over you any day

Good day

[sahal80]

He knows he will not win anything. He is simply trying to build his role as Kingmaker. He will use his influence to rebuild DJ and to help shape the next elections.

It’s a brilliant idea but one with more benefits than risks

yes that role works well for him that why i said he can lead an opposition without been a candidate. He actually is back to make sure that this govt is not gonna keep all the institutions in its hand like the electoral committees after annexing the parliament and the court so he gonna start big civil jihad so that after two years his group can restore back power. They said let us not get busy on this govt like daljir and mahad salaad was doing and be ready for the big battle after two years so are we gonna see this govt losing its grip on power slowly? He can play such role with the regional and community leaders ablnd the IC. This govt knows his "peaceful agenda" atleast he is not like fiqi who calls for a rebellion and instead concentrates on the future that why they are avoiding him.

He must let this role for the younger ones like this guy who was once their candidate for hirshabelle when they were trying to give us fake capital like buuloburde. He is harti abgaal perhaps agoonyare not warsangali he is related to sh sharif. This guy will be great for the HG intersts specially banaadir. He is from the islaax mogadishu university typical dam jadiid.
http://mudug24.com/2018/04/28/xildhibaa ... b-akhriso/

Or a joint potential candidate with Daljir and here they need new tactics like the UAE , Djibouti. DALJIR wants to switch to the UAE but Damjadiid are sticking with Turkey thats their khilaaf but they got Sanbalolshe who can play this role indirectly(good cop bad cop strategy)

UAE official group this time is HAG led by cabdirahman abdishakur warsame with abdi caynte who lives in abu dubai for a UN job. Shakur for his dirty past but this time its expected to get bigger votes and he is f-king danayste he could make gorgorton for a pm. The other guy will be abdulqadir osoble. So HAG r now these three camps.

[SuperLander]

sahal could you tell me about the relationship between farmajo and khayre. who’s the more powerful of the two

[sahal80]

sahal could you tell me about the relationship between farmajo and khayre. who’s the more powerful of the two

to understand i must give you their backgrounds.





The link between Farmaajo and khayre are his wife or her qabiil in general so murursade as a clan has the biggest influence in the govt interms of the cabinet, the security, Xamar, the airport and the port..i mean the whole Farmaajo base in the govt. UAE plane was carrying 10 million but they announced only 9.6 million the 400 was stolen by the murursade admin in the airport. Mp dhuxulow and mp dhagdheer r the mukhalasiin for all the federal jobs



Now lets go back to your question. Farmaajo is more powerful interms of the law and the presidency but like i said to you he depends on khayres clan for every thing as a local base where dblock or mx have no presence in every thing so if he mess with them they can assassinate him and if he appounts a HG pm or Abgaal the base will shift to their clans and therefore they will have more power than him.

Farmaajo is not like yeey who invaded xamar with Ethiopians and mj militias he is there bc of a minority hawiye base and some hawiye still wanting the pm post like HG.

Minister goodax came through Farmaajo wife bc they r third cousins and he was with her receiving the people when her mother dead so you see is not just khayre .

Having said that, recently some mx advicers has been arriving and one of then is called General abdi Osman from uk in cooperation with Fahad yasin who was one of the asmara group who are pro HG they r trying to fix the relationship with HG and Hiraab in General in order to leave some mx legacy behind specially in kismaayo as they r plaining to move the OG admin to buaale and marginalize reer cabdulle in favour of cawlyahan who will be the new cadaado.

[Murax]

Sahal,

That is why I used to get frustrated with Culusow. Granted Farmaajo hasn’t really accomplished much but at least he has هـمة عالية...carries himself like he is above the powerless regional admins. Culusow meanwhile used to carry himself like a regional Governor.

[original dervish]

Sahal....I have followed your analyses for years....you clearly have an insight into southern politics.
However, apart from detailing shifting alliances and intrigues, there is never an end game.

The be all and end all of Somali politics is to get to the presidency.......there is no vision for the country.
All these groups you mention are clueless....their only policy is that they're with UAE , Turkey etc.
Is there such a thing as "Somalia first" with these people?

[xiimaaya]

Would love to fuck ina gurgurte gurgur istyle
Damn I’d break her brakes off forereal . Reer konfur are known for their basket ass because of the food they consume which is similar to Bantu food like fufu soor, canbuulo.

This why the ninko is popular in the south become of the booty they develop

[FarhanYare]

If we measure success by the number of Qarax, under Farmaajo we are worser off and make no mistake Farmaajo bragged about his leadership will be a new dawn by taking a jab at his previous predecessors.. Xasan shiiq's return into politics is influenced by that fat annual salary and likewise for the current tool in villa Somalia.

[Murax]

If we measure success by the number of Qarax, under Farmaajo we are worser off and make no mistake Farmaajo bragged about his leadership will be a new dawn by taking a jab at his previous predecessors.. Xasan shiiq's return into politics is influenced by that fat annual salary and likewise for the current tool in villa Somalia.

To be honest I didn’t judge Culusow on qarax in Xamar. There will always be qarax in Xamar no matter who comes. What I judged Xassan Sh on was the fact he was more interested in his dam jadiid bullshyt then running the country. That said from a results standpoint I’m disappointed things have not changed with Farmaajo in terms of progress. AS still in M Jubba, L Shabelle etc

[FarhanYare]

The truth is if you and I and the general public don't hold politicians accountable, nothing takes off the ground. Hence, why we are in this state. A quick google search on their salaries revealed XSM pocketed a whopping $125,000 monthly salary amounting to 1.5 million per year. How can one live large when you are surrounded with extreme poverty?? The point is with that kind of money at stakes, the public's needs takes the back burner.

[sahal80]

Sahal,

That is why I used to get frustrated with Culusow. Granted Farmaajo hasn’t really accomplished much but at least he has هـمة عالية...carries himself like he is above the powerless regional admins. Culusow meanwhile used to carry himself like a regional Governor.

to understand whats wrong with Farmaajo watch this video. Im not fun of shakuur but he makes great points. Today we should have had local degmo elections not destroying the states. This himah caaliya is too early for a country thats recovering from a war. JL forces in kismayo was built by ahmed madoobe without the federal Govt so you must consult with him but i know its a planA to remove him. I as i said Garguurte had Damjadiud caburin only on HAG regions but he was letting southwest for theirs, JL for theirs(after some early clash) and PL for theirs.

This govt khayre dictates on central regions and Farmaajo on JL he doesnt dare with PL wich is more centralist dictatorial approach.

They did two good things; some maaliyada reform wich made them able to pay wages and removing the militias from the streets and suuqaqa iyo guryaha. Before that they used to knock every door for "baad"

But you have less income as there is no free movement, security retreat in many fronts specially shabeelooyinka and now adopting JVA strategy.